A way for Vichy to become the "legitimate" France and even potentially join the Allies; A way to have Free France gain territories that were assigned to Vichy France when the whole thing was created, without bringing them into the war . New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Join. If it weakens then France's security will suffer. However, the very good civilian production allows for considerable military buildup in the years before the war and France can easily build up its industry to a comparable level once negative modifiers have been removed. The greeks and the turks joined the Axis and the polish finally annexed Romania and put troops all over my border and sent the ultimatum i accepted it because I did not want to be crushed. As Germany take Poland and Czechia (at least that's what I do) , As Italy take like maybe Albania, Greece or Yugoslavia, As Russia DON"T TAKE ANYTHING. After my last Vichy post Spain (Who was in the allies) had the bright idea of declaring war on me. Changing conscription laws will make Full Employment worse but can be removed with the National focus. To the south lies the Pyrenees mountains which separate France from Spain. Though you probably can still winUK is spread so thin they likely won't get any significant number of divisions in France before they diethen proceed as normal. Ruling party is Fascist or Non-Aligned, Has completed focus National Regeneration France can form the European Union through a decision if it is democratic and controls the requisite territories (those being all of its own starting core states a well as the starting core states of Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg. Interestingly, the way these decisions are coded make it entirely possible for a Fascist France to intervene on the side of Republican Spain and also drag the Axis in. Following the German decision to grant Vichy lands to Italy the Syrian administration has chosen to join our side. ohhhh I didnt know that about how theyll join an opposing faction. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. ( they discussed it on chat) Turkey capped and the Turkey player started raging. Our industry will be back to full capacity and it is unlikely we will have strikes anytime soon. Cookie Notice However, poor naval infrastructure and low shipbuilding priority means that constructing a large modern fleet is not easy, and in fact can often be counter-productive in that it denies vital raw materials from tank and motorized production. We should try and find other sources of manpower to make up for the shortfall, either in recruitment or in the economy. Italy is a major nation in Southern Europe. Sometimes when the allies are already at war with someone else e.g. The Vichy regime enjoyed diplomatic recognition from the majority of the Axis and Allies and was recognized as the official government of the entirety of metropolitan France except for Alsace-Lorraine and Savoy, which were occupied and annexed by Germany and Italy, respectively. You really can't, you have to fight the allies in like 1940-1941 if you want to not play passive. So Im playing as germany and everytime im about to invade a country i justfiy go to declare war and all of a sudden an allied country is guranteeing independence that fast which means i have to back off or start ww2 or even worse. With the French military teetering on the brink of collapse, the French government (having been evacuated from Paris to first to Tours, then to Bordeaux) concluded a ceasefire and subsequent armistice with Germany, effectively surrendering the whole country. I initially sent volunteers to the democratic France. This is a community maintained wiki. Went and took out british Raj next to free up my eastrn allies. Diplomacy [edit | edit source]. I go after a country then immediatly after I declare war they join the comminterm and now im at war with russia and then I get instantly rekt. To the Northeast in the region of Alsace-Lorraine lies the small Vosges mountain range and the huge river Rhine, which makes up the natural border with German Reich. After theyre gone I need to find a way to disolve my Axis and then take the rest of the countries over until my Reich spans the globe! 'Our request to join Britain as Allies has been denied. The forces of Germany were able to quickly overrun northern France, capturing Paris without a fight. On the other hand, we don't exactly have the means to fight them on this issue. My prosecution of the war went no different, if slower but still well ahead of the "Go with Britain" focus. They have 562 Dewoitine D.520 fighters which is the most 1940 type fighters of any country in the 1939 start. . If the allies are already at war, but not against you, the nations you attack are likely to try and join them but depending one who you play and what's your relation with the allies, they may be reluctant to join the war, especially if you're co-belligerent. Be sure to kick Czechoslovakia out of the faction before Sudetenland as otherwise you will end up in a war with Germany too early. Thankfully, HOI4 will give. I forgot to say that I got parts of Slovakia and did not want to deal with resistance and released a puppet czeslovakia which later became independent and there was a czeslovakia in southern slovakia. becuase fighting england as germany is just a chore . . 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With the regime in Berlin ratcheting up the tension over the border between them and Yugoslavia, the British have chosen to give way. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Note that I said this behavior is specific to the leader of the Allies or its inherited faction, and not UK in particular. The memory of the Great War is also very much alive, and the people of France are reluctant to fight another major war in Europe. Yippee. How should we respond? 25 days ago. Faction: Neutral. Having fortified the border gives France the opportunity to plan and prepare carefully, but it does sacrifice some flexibility in the event of something unexpected. #3. Having emerged victorious from the Great War, the army has developed a dangerously complacent attitude which causes strategic developments to come slowly and with some reluctance. Allies of Boris Johnson (pictured in Westminster today) branded the Commons probe into Partygate 'a farce' as it released an update repeatedly citing Sue Gray's evidence It became a three way front, Allies attacking Germany and soviet union, Italy does not join the axis. Somewhat historical, like by 1 or so. These are the results. Military production is dwarfed by Germany (20 more factories) and Italy (11 more factories) and only on par with Belgium. However, their government is divided, with Communist influences threatening to weaken it further. Even off of historical, Britain, France, and Czechoslovakia have a >90% chance to let Germany have the Sudentenland. In the spirit of the Entente Cordiale, we are proud to welcome you not only as friends, but as Allies. Plans for the extension of the Maginot Line all the way to the English Channel have been finished, and construction orders placed. [deleted] 3 yr. ago. How to prevent this? Gains ownership of and control over the following states if owned by the country getting the event: Fired for the country that meets the requirements: If the following is true on declaration of war: Random other country that originates from, Resets the appearance of the country to the default, Every state that is national territory of both, Sets ownership of and control over the state to, Every unit leader that has the unit leader flag, Has at least 70% of progress towards being capitulated. France is quite possibly the best candidate to form the European Union as if staying democratic, it can expect to end up in a defensive war against both Germany and Italy, allowing both countries to be annexed in a single peace treaty. If Germany does back down in response to either instance, not only will the Rhineland remain demilitarized, but it will also give them a negative debuff that will lock off Anschluss for 1 year (additionally, when Germany does go to war, this will mean that the Rhineland will be unprotected by German troops for a while). Then me and my master, Poland-Romania joined the Allies but not the french. That being said, if a player takes control of France and is able to iron out all of the country's internal problems and strengthen the military-industrial complex enough before war breaks out, they are in a good position to repulse and defeat both Germany and Italy and annex both countries, thus ending those threats for good. What I just did was go to war with poland instantly and then stacked against the Soviet Union. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 Posted by link3341556. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. It is a rather good air force, but it will need to be significantly strengthened before the war starts. Both countries will load up a new National Focus Tree. Examples of alternative division template names for France include: France has 1 Carrier(CV), 5 Battleships(BB), 7 Heavy Cruisers(CA), 7 Light Cruisers(CL), 52 Destroyers(DD) and 63 Submarines(SS) at the start, and boasts a somewhat modern - if badly understrength - fleet. France is dominated by flat, arable land in the Northwest and forest and highland in the center. Additionally, through the focus "French Union", France can gain cores on any of their colonies in Africa, the Middle East, or Indochina, although the cores gained will differ as the outcome is always random - interestingly, if Morocco, Algeria, or Tunisia was to form Andalusia, then be re-conquered by France, it can still agree to be cored through French Union, which would result in France gaining all cores that Morocco had (hypothetically, the same would be true for Arabia if Lebanon or Syria were to form the nation, be re-conquered by France, and then agree to be cored through French Union), although this would be slightly redundant if Legitimist France was to do so, as Andalusia requires Spain and Portugal to be formed) - note that the Blum-Violette proposal would not grant France cores on Andalusia if formed this method, as said focus is fixed in regards to what cores it grants. If you have land forts around level 6 or higher then the Axis nations will be very hesitant to assault your positions and you can focus on taking down Italy. An armistice with Germany at this point is inevitable. Despite our best efforts to offer support to the Little Entente, our most recent attempt to reach out to one of the nations has been met with skepticism. Vichy France's zone of jurisdiction is initially limited to the following states within Metropolitan France: In addition to these, Vichy France will also gain control of most of France's colonial empire (Free France will gain control of French Guyana and a handful of other island territories). They are evidently seeking to enslave us all we have no choice but to fight to the last! #1 RagTagPig Aug 19, 2017 @ 8:32pm ohhhh I didnt know that about how theyll join an opposing faction. Significant rivers include the river Rhine between France and German Reich, Le Rhne to the southeast, La Seine to the northwest, La Loire which runs through the center, and La Garonne which runs in the southwest. The battle is lost. The French military completely disintegrated and the French government agreed to an armistice on the 25th of Juneeffectively surrendering the whole countryin a defeat which caused great astonishment to the rest of the world, as up until that point, France was a leading world power (both economically and militarily) that only 20 years earlier had won the Great War. Becomes the owner and controller of every state that meets the following requirements: Is either on the African continent or is a core of either of the countries: Becomes the owner and controller of as well as gaining national territory on every state that meets the following requirements: Is controlled by a country originating from, Every uncontrolled state that is national territory of, Sets the ownership and control of every state owned by, Is either Corsica (1), Provence (21), or Savoy (735), If Provence (21) and Savoy (735) are controlled by, Sets the ownership and control of Alpes (32) to, Every unit leader, including admirals, with the, Otherwise, if our country is the faction leader, kicks, Owns either Damascus (554), Aleppo (677), or Deir-az-Zur (680), Then the following is executed for a random nation which originates from. As France, complete the "Little Entente" National Focus, and have all German cores owned by you or someone in your faction. and our and our He became a senior analyst at age 26 at Alfa-Bank, Russia's largest private bank, before a brief spell getting his master's of finance at the University of London. These are choices of ministers and design companies for France. With Britain at peace, [From.GetLeader] has agreed to the requests by French political parties for the restoration of a provisional French government. In almost all my games USA always joins the allies by early 1941, but in my last germany playthrough it joined in 1942, so it depends on what historical path USA chooses or if Japan declares war on them soon. Start in Sicily and work your way up the peninsula towards Rome. Peace must always be the goal of any democratic nation. PDXCON If played correctly, the Second World War (and any other conflicts before 1948) could very well see France reborn and reshaped and emerge from the crucible of war as the far bigger and stronger European Union. #hoi4 #Heartsofiron4 If Japan decides to join the allies instead - Hoi4 TImelapse 3,376 views Mar 2, 2022 98 Dislike Share ManiaGin 2.17K subscribers Ai makes some weird decisions that i. France joins allies when they shouldn't.why? It has very little in terms of resources, manpower or industrial power. The French national focus tree can be divided into 5 branches and 7 sub-branches: France starts with very good tanks, having unlocked 2 levels of the light tanks tree. They will eventually join the allies by 1941-42 if youre playing historical AI. Vichy France is created through an event chain which will start if France is in a faction with United Kingdom, at war with Germany and Germany controls the state of Ile de France (16). [From.GetLeader] has refused to join the alliance, perhaps doubting our motives, or perhaps being concerned that aligning too closely with us would make them a target. I composed the music for the Battle for the Bosphorus pack. Press J to jump to the feed. This is a community maintained wiki. To avoid this case, you need to justify at a time when the allies cannot guarantee your target. If Germany is Fascist, they will establish Vichy France. Privacy Policy. Workers backed by [Root.GetCommunistParty] have organized and are demanding better conditions, such as higher wages and shorter work weeks. Note that Japan invading China increases WT quite a bit so if you are playing historical, plan for that. Civilian to Military Factory conversion cost: This page was last edited on 23 February 2023, at 01:36. Vichy France will start off with the following economy laws: Vichy France will also retain whatever industry and resources that end up within its zone of jurisdiction (the rest will end up under German occupation). Their heartland in Europe is rich; almost half of Africa is under their control, and they have colonies in Indochina, Syria, and Guyana, not to mention direct control of islands in all the oceans of the world. Through the focus "The Blum-Violette Proposal", France can gain cores on Northern Algeria. The UK and France will start guaranteeing independence at WT 25%. For more information, please see our Hi, let me introduce myself! France has 74 divisions in 1936, but many of those are colonial divisions with only six infantry battalions, and their armored divisions are basically brigades: France relies on the heavy fortifications at the border to Germany, the Maginot Line to defend them. France starts 1939 with a small, but modern air force. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Whilst few would doubt that Monsieur Daladier has been a fine prime minister, he simply could not contend with the extraordinary set of circumstances in which France has found herself. Privacy Policy. Has completed focus Invite Communist Ministers This is a community maintained wiki. Whilst the Marine Nationale is strong enough to decisively defeat either the Kriegsmarine or the Regia Marina alone, it would have no chance against a combined Axis fleet. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. >_>. I just want to write down what happened to my first game. These numbers represent the base available resources, depending on the trade law a certain amount may be traded away. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Information, Frequently Asked New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. PDXCON Tho if they hate you they'll be eager instead. I guess that just means I cannot attack an commies without taking daddy russia out first. 'Our request to join Britain as Allies has been accepted. This page was last edited on 31 July 2022, at 13:58. If you spot a mistake then you are welcome to fix it. The HOI4 Adoriasim SIG is a meta group aiming to create a hoi4 mod out of Adoria with its extensive in sim and pre-sim lore. In a few weeks, Japan will declare war on the Philippines and I will be dragged into the war in Asia. France has access to huge amounts of Steel and Aluminum. As with her tanks, France begins the game with modern naval technology, such as 1936 BB, DD and SS techs and two unique designs: La Fantasque, a destroyer model with tier 3 (1940) engines, and the Surcouf Class submarine with 3 custom slots. If France elects to collaborate with Germany, Germany will be given the choice between establishing the Vichy Regime and warring France into the ground. This is offset by a major penalty to doctrine research, making it extremely time-consuming to develop proper doctrines. 5 glamscum 5 yr. ago So how did your first MP game go. If allied with the United Kingdom (which can annex all of its dominions and even the United States to form the Imperial Federation), these two titans can easily become the dominant superpowers of the post-war world order.
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