Yes There is a higher purpose to these relationships. I love him more than Ive ever loved any man I knew immediately. I loved him from the bottom of my heart. I turned to astrology and within months I learnt a lot of things about this topic. My natal Venus conjuncts composite IC and his natal Mars conjuncts composite MC. . Reading Nessus in the houses and signs can provide an individual with different implications. In Astrology, the planet Venus represents compassion, cooperation, beauty, and the Arts. The composite chart with the man Im involved with has an extremely tight Moon/Mars conjunction in the 12th, along with the North Node. When the transit Moon is in the composite 12th house, you may want some alone time together, wanting to share feelings but only when alone and no one else is around. Venus in 12th House Man. Your generation, the one with Pluto/Uranus opposite Saturn in Virgo/Pisces, came into this life with a huge burden. A share a composite chart with a stellium of planets (Sun, Mercury, Uranus, and Neptune) in the 12th house with cusp on Scorpio. Neptune causes us to turn our other into gods. and then mars, Jupiter and neptune in the 2nd. In our synastry my North Node/South Node axis is conjunct his MC/IC axis and his Moon conjuncts my IC. What is your thought on this. You have nailed my experience. mercury and mercury conj. Hi Dawn. This can happen in composites of unrequited love, where one person loves another who doesnt know he or she exists. Definitely karmic and unbreakable. I cant really comment without seeing the charts. We are still friends and well always love each other. Ive known couples who are married for long periods of time to have 12th house composites. I also have two stelliums in the 11th and 12th of my natal chart.a total of 8 planets (6 in Leo). Im blessed to remember some past lives weve had and we have definitely come together to mend some old wounds and learn to forgive and love one another. In a negative way, the struggles within the partnership will cause the Pluto person to see where his or her behaviour needs adjusting. Sorry, Natalia, I cant really comment on this in the space available. Much depends on the relationship of the 12th house planets to one another. We are from different countries and we live bliss for few moments and then a lot of despair and pain separated without any logic A tough road between Heaven and Hell! but thats life afterall! We met 3 months ago, and live 300 miles apart. Thank you for such an eloquent understanding, this has helped me. That you both have the Moon in the 12th makes you both sensitive to your surroundings and highly intuitive. The 12th house has to do with summarizing and accepting all that has come before it, whereas first house planets are very pure, almost innocent, in their expression. Thank you for this article. We challenge each other to be the best versions of ourselves. Lilith in Synastry. Saturn is the heaviest aspected planet in this composite, which actually reinforces the intensity of the Moon/Saturn-opposite theme from synastry. I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd. Since Lilith is being hidden in the 12th . Im sure your midpoint chart is valid if you had it read properly. My nn is conjunct his sun and mercury. (like your name too. On the one hand We are meant to be on the other, But if we are, why is it so hard?, When a couple has planets, or an important planet, in the 12th, it can go a couple of ways. That may mean leaving you behind. I am a Sag with moon (12th house) and rising both in scorpio. Dawn, I just found this and it seems to hold some answers about what is going wrong with my marriage of 8 years. 12th House Meaning. House position isnt as strong as the sign of the Moon. Its what happens when a sensitive person loves another human being. I can say with absolute confidence that you perfectly captured the essence of this energy. There are lots of couples with heavy 12th house influence who are out in the open. 12th house issues are not always supportive. He literally proposed to me the night we met. However, with so much 12th house a individuals, and then as a couple, can there be something more than We are fated, but we are meant to part. You have a strong synastry and a strong 1st house in the composite, and of course that makes a difference. Is Your experience the same? You need a synastry reading to make sense of all this. Something is whispering in their ears. Both of us are on a spiritual path, which is very important to each of us. I dont know if he felt the same deep feelings but I know he was puzzled by the sex. The composite chart has Sun/Jupiter conjunct by degree in the 12th in Scorpio, moon in the 12th in late Libra, and Scorpio rising. The fellow and I have composite sun/Mercury conjunct in the 12th, making an out of sign conjunction to the ascendant. Thank You so much for Your answer! Hi Evelyne. Also, if the relationship is not a good one, Sun conjunct Neptune is prone to self-deception and confusion at best and outright deception and betrayal at its worst. I am a pisces sun, mercury, mars. Thank you Dawn for this very interesting article. I think that your article is quite amazing, but for those of us who are making these relationships work for us I wish you would have given some cases in which it can work. When composite Lilith is placed in the eighth house of the composite chart, this makes the relationship between the two people very intense. Saturn and Uranus both have a lot to say about Aquarius. *Also in synastry- my 12th house Juno in Taurus also sits in his 12th house) Here we are, older, everything so different now, lessons learned, and I am seeing that I cant undo the past. Mars and Pluto certainly do about Scorpio. We also have composite Juno in Aquarius in the 4th house (opposing Mercury in the 10th and trining the Ascendant), and Venus tightly conjunct Saturn in the 11th (Leo). Please can someone find me some positive end result here because I have not too much hope after reading that article aboyt the 12 house and I am going insane because I can not really tell anyone what is going on in my life> (husband, kids or even him)I do not want to hurt anybodys life but that means I have to give up my love which is just to hurtful to do! It doesnt matter. We all have things we come in to this life to accomplish, achieve, or learn. The part about unrequited love was particularly interesting and that other part might not know what we exist. The Davison chart is a time/space chart and is anchored in the here and now. Learn More. Looking at the chart, it seems to be propelling us into Aquarius, and Aquarian age type of love. Comfy date, lots of laughter, he contacted me for a second date. My mars falls in his 12th and his moon falls in my 12th. If anything new would happen you would dbe the first one to know! thanks you very much Dawn to shed some lights on this! The North Node in the 12 th House - Synastry. Is Your experience the same? I retire in one year and will be living 20 miles from him. I have met my match. I loved you from the first moment and that has never changed.) In the 10 years, he (who had been separated from his wife when we first met) went back to his wife, I got engaged to someone else but broke it off realizing I do not love my fiance, reconnected as just friends, and I eventually married someone else, with his blessings. Thanks for the kind and helpful words, Dawn. I noticed you dont offer composite readings. As the article says : this being the 12th, most of the time the lesson is learning to love and then let go. In my experience, if you have a good synastry but a difficult composite, the couple get along with one another but have problems establishing the relationship in the outside world. Am i trapping my self? We both experienced he physically (I think) something weird when i was very close to him and I saw something mind boggling in the night when Venus turned retrograde this year. Its more complex than just the composite positions. I had a karmic relationship with a guy for 6 years which ended badly. The composite with the Great Unrequired Impossible love of my life , shows Sun conjunct Neptune and SN , in Scorpio VII . Its hard for me to stop dreaming about this person. thank you for your insight, thank you !!! Thank You very much for Your answer and very best regards from Hungary again! hi dawn Thank you, Tricia. The 12th house is always complex and is different in how it manifests depending on the contacts involved. Is there nothing better to hope for? And 1 more thing HIS VENUS opposes my vertex and my sun, venus and mercury on his ASC conjucts his Venus! It was a complicated, intense, spicy hot love affair that changed both of our lives. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. You explain the ineffable. along with Juno. Learning to become unattached to outcome is a Neptunian theme in general. Thank you in advance. i dont know, looking at this chart, it has completely different emphasis, from my regular composite. Yes its probably the case, but as it is unconscious, how could I manage it , or prevent myself from feeling this ? Because, of Saturn and Pluto? Curious about the sexual response (if there will be anything), its friendly. We have Uranus, Mercury, Neptune, Saturn, North Node, Sun in the 12th. Thanks! Lets put it this waythe Davison chart is a time/space chart; its reality is anchored in the actual midpoint between the times of birth and places of birth. The working dynamic of the partnership is in the biwheel (how do you make me feel?) When transit Neptune is in the composite 12th house, you can explore your spiritual connection, and want to make sure that youre intuitively moving in the same direction. Our Composite Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Jupiter are in the 12th, Gemini. Here Black Moon Lilith is squaring both Venus/Mars (12th house) and the Moon (6th house) - both the most difficult houses in the composite chart, indicating an unequal partnership. One of my longest relationships featured a Lilith-Sun/Ascendant conjunction in synastry. Whatever the motive, we know we are facing some sort of extremeand a choice. or sth. We have experienced together so much and it helps my mental developement so much and also your idea about loving and letting go interests me a lot. we activate each others 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 6th, 10th and 11th houses also. VERY-VERY SORRY! Our situation was kind of complicated. Transit Mercury in the Composite 12th House. The lack of posturing and display of ego gives others the chance to have a "day in the sun," endearing the 12th house sun to the person they gave the chance to shine. Im also sorry to say that trines arent all theyre cracked up to besometimes they just pour energy into whatever else theyre aspecting, in this case, the major square. Its a bit like getting knocked off your feet by a powerful waveyou and your partner are going to have to swim in the tide for a while, and deal with whatever watery beasties swim your way. I apologize for the mistakes, Im French and sometimes it is difficult to express in English . In reality, 12th house people tend to believe it doesn't matter what they do. When your North Node is in the 12th house of your partner's natal chart, you will help the 12th house native become more spiritual and grow as a person. Your emotions may also be cloudy and unclear at times, and your lack of boundaries may cause you trouble. The same person I've had mutual 12th house synastry with has sun in 12th house composite with me. Can you say anything on the north node transiting the twelfth house on a composite? When synastry presents itself on the Pluto/Node conjunction, the partner to the Pluto person will instigate growth, either from a negative or positive stimulus. Your relationship usually starts out as a friendship or as "good friends". This last chance element, sadly, often leads us to relationships that are destined to exist only to fix this thingwhen the lesson is learned, both these people move on. I dont quite know what it all means but I like what you wrote here and will keep it in mind for future reference: [Couples with a heavy 12th house/ 6th house polarity have to find a way to put their wisdom to some practical use. It is composed of the combined midpoints of each person's planets and angles. I feel sad about that. After our individual identity is explored through all the houses, in the 12th and final house, the personality dissolves into something larger. (I have never done anything like that with anyone else.) Could I ask Your opinion? It doesn't have to be a breakup. We work together, this relationship is definitely a karmic one, but now, after 1 one year of being together, there are some difficulties. Composite Pluto in the 12th House With Composite Pluto in the 12th house, you may struggle over power and control in ways that aren't obvious. The romantic synastric analysis is the interaction of houses between two birth charts. (anyone who has ever fallen in love and had planets with that person in 12th composite will know..). however, we are very well aspected with neptune in trine and sextile to our nodes, as our sun, but our vertex is opposed and conjucted. Unfortunately, the 12th House is one of the hardest places for Lilith to be. Comparing composites to the biwheel between two charts is impossible, like comparing apples and oranges. The composite AC is Scorpio Pluto in 12th (only planet) and Mars in 8th. Wow, everything in this article is so accurate + written so beautifully. I had to spend years unlearning what love is to me and settle with how individuals differ in what we value in a relationship. Weve known each other for a decade??? I don know what to do. thank you for this article, im really having a hard time understanding the 12th house, as you concluded we all do.. and i dont know why, this last paragraph brought a tear to my eye.. because its so true, so well said. P.S. i have it conjunct in our davison3rd house- and opposite in4th-10th in composite. Our composite has a sun and north node in the 12 th house. I just am hesitating. He didnt want to commit/marry. With Libra in 12th House, your past life may not be that pleasant. When transit Venus is in the composite 12th house, you may enjoy being affectionate with one another when no one else around is around to pry and its just the two of you in a personal relationship. Hes Gemini sun . In composite we have north node in 12th. Our synastry with my beloved couple is very strong with good connections between both 1th and 7th house rulers and many positive aspects like double whammy saturn-moon, and positive ascendant-moon, ascendant-venus, venus-moon, and so warm and intense pluto conj. You might have a relationship that was so intense, which left you hurting. Impossible to comment without seeing both charts. We are each in our mid 60she never married, and I (a widow) married 25 yearsto a Pisces. Sorry, I cant respond to lists of aspects. the davison chart also has our moon, venus, saturn and uranus in the 1st. In fact, it seems we are even more a part of each others lives than ever. . I dont know whether this situation is karma? my davison chart has our sun, mercury and pluto in the 12. frequently i hear what he says in my head before he says it. Aspects to composite planets will fill in the details. One thing is certain, and that is planets in the 12th house dont behave like any other. (Not at all helped by the fact that his Venus is square to my Sun at exact degrees.) So sad! Now, what to think of this powerful symbolism in the composite chart? Aquarius rising at 29 degrees. Im in hawaii for a month, after he broke up with me for the last time, trying to get my strength and sanity back and assure myself that you should not have to TRY so hard for things to work, when these 12th issues come up to work on. Lilith in 11th House Composite, Composite Lilith in 11th House With Composite Lilith in the 11th house, you can get along swimmingly as friends, regardless of the type of partnership. So beautifully written Dawn. Couples with a heavy 12th house/ 6th house polarity have to find a way to put their wisdom to some practical use. Lilith in 12th House Composite, Composite Lilith in 12th House You may find it challenging to express devotion and love for one another if Composite Lilith is in the 12th house. The 12th house conjunction in Cancer indicates that there is a nurturing issue between you that needs resolving. We have a composite 12th house sun mars and venus in Cancer! My sympathies. 8th and 12th house seem to have haunted me for most of my life , Your email address will not be published. Most of it is illusions I know.. In this relationship, you tend to agree to a no-obligation arrangement from the start. Two sides of the same coin. "Composite Chart, Midpoint- method (2)". I live in a kind of constant daydream /illusion of being near my beloved ghost I know this is not truth , but I dont know how I could do without. They represent different aspects of a relationship. However, Sag and Cap are very, very different from one another and the things that make you feel secure, comforted and appreciated will be very different, unless other things in the chart back them up. Sometimes the twelfth house energies become lost, and we create false gods from what we cannot find within us (for example, those with Leo on the 12th house cusp may worship creative expression, but not be able to find it in themselves). Lilith in partner's 12th house may represent emotional outbursts, manipulations and obsessions. Look at poor Kurt Cobain, who is the poster boy for this aspect. Im kinda tired of dancing with men who enjoy attempting control and am tired of the endlessly unavailable creatures that keep crossing my path in life. Beginning to look at our Composite Chart and come to find a Moon and Mars Conjunction in Leo 12th House. Oftentimes, once we surrender to the powers of the 12th house, our lives are transformed by meaning, because those unlikely connections have brought us a wisdom beyond our time together. You dont want, on the whole, a composite Mars in the 12th square to Neptune, unless you are missionaries or you plan to open up a swimming pool installation company. let go or fight for it? Neptune is also in the 12th, but hanging back a bit and squaring Neptune- yikes. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Transit Pluto in the Composite 12th House. I was heart broken all over again. Me and my sweet friend have Sun, Venus and Mercury in Cancer in the 12th, trine Neptune in Scorpio in the 5th, sextile Moon in Taurus in the 10th, but square Saturn in Virgo in the 3rd. Thanks for taking the time to respond. We could look at each other and read one anothers minds, but not in a way where you hear words or anything. where is very intense connection and I can feel things youve described but also I can see it as long term.. . Pluto, Sun, Venus & Mercury in the 12th/Virgo. And it KILLS ME! My concern is a grand trine in the composite chart, Mercury/Jupiter/Venus all conjunct in the 1st (pisces) trine Moon/North node conjunct in the 5th (cancer) and Neptune the chart ruler in the 9th (Scopio). composite moon and saturn are in fifth house. I found composite Saturn on the 12th house, trining the composite Sun/Venus/Merc on the 8th and sextile to the Moon on the 2nd. Find a way to bring the god down to the day to day world, so that it, too, is considered sacred. Our physical connection was addicting. Thank you for this piece it is prompting reflection. Forget about where his planets fall in your houses and instead, put your natal chart around the chart of the composite, then do the same with his.