My personal experience, having had a short stint as a 3d print seller on Turbosquid, is that they paint with way too broad a brush when it comes to potential IP infringement. A few weeks later, my first 3d model was sold on TS, while I had to wait 4 or 5 months to get my first sales on CGT, And the sad thing is that those sales concerned only low-priced models. Rigged 3D models are available in Autodesk 3ds Max (.max), Maya (.ma), Softimage (.xsi), Cinema 4D (.c4d) and many other file formats. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. Royalty rate of CGTrader allows the seller to make a model cheaper than on TurboSquid. TS staff do their best and is not responsible for the strategic choice of TS NoneCg I've read almost all your information regarding the public issues. f9acb067-ba84-4d38-8a65-8d3c4249a700Zoom.jpg httpswww.turbosquid.com3d-modelsfemale-rigged-3d-model1041167 --GENERAL-- This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. This is why: http://rebloggy.com/post/art-copyright-turbosquid-infringement-kouotsu-ip-theft-kouotsu/34732573054 @interate CGI . TS going down. A own store where you can fill your offers with stuff found in the large pool would account for a thumbs up for the people hoes products get placed in those stores. The paypal commission is paid 2 times - 1 when the model is bought, 2 times - when money is paid to the seller. However, I will agree that sales here aren't as good as TS. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. Check my store https://apkvisa.com/dungeon-quest-mod-apk/, Very motivating and supportive too.Hope you keep on sharing a greater amount of your ideas. Ts just took royalty's from other items I've sold to get the money back. TurboSquid goes down, It becomes miserable the users are ,,working from behind,, ! To be honest, when I first found this site a few days ago I was really excited. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. This is my principle decision . And in terms of openness and freedom CGTrader is the first. I understand CGtrader's management don't want to bet on one horse but it probable lives the two horses crippled in this case. My price at the time was same both on Ts as on CGt but after some time position on CGt got better and sales was picking up. So even if TS takes 60%, I still make better profit there because here I get 94% of nothing. Maybe the home page should be a very simple page with only two huge buttons [CG models] and [3D Printing]. I agree that these two parts - CG and 3D printing should be split at least externally/ visually. If you're searching for a regular model, you have to click on the little icon "CG models", but nothing changes on the page when you do so. No frankly, it's a bloody mystery. You must create a huge hype and create things that are unique and that connect with people. Unless you have a huge ass :) You can not keep all aspects of these markets covered, so you will only be average on all of them or even worse. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment ! Similar thing happened to me,that's why i'm at CGtrader full time now. Yes, sometimes your points are not displayed for a day or two, but there were problems with the rating of models. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. Which is good, since we are the ones who will bring in the profits. A good ref point is that your average laptop with Dual Pentium 2 gigahertz processor 8 GB of ram will start having issues when running over 200,000 polygons. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. They customize those figures anyway you want. Turbosquid just has it backwards. Bangalore Escort i think modeli unique and has need to be bought depend on the buyers not the seller I tested the CGTrader rigged character morphs for Daz3D studio from your commission and it works like a charm! I will very much want to peruse. There are indeed some snags in data management and the sorting out system. I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. I was stunned to get informed there was no fraud protection (yes people, you pay 60% cut and get no fraud protection). They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers. - Crowdfunding to improve the CGtrader presence in the market. This place is indeed different and allot closer to what we actually need, I can't imagine the core principal on witch this place is founded would change as it will prove to be the one and only way to be future proof in this supper connected world. That's how they won and that is how you succeed in business. How Can we get 94% of Royalty?? Better for who? This site is bloated with 3D print ready models, crap models and "adult content / i cant see it". Yes, buyers has free will to express their opinion about model, but in case of negative feedback such opinion should be reasonable and motivated. You have to choose a category to get a refresh. https://vimeo.com/739678 There are tons of things better here on CGtrader, most notably we get served very well for extremely low cost. CGTrader just doesn't have the exposure it needs yet to top Turbosquid but I am confident it will surpass it in time because of the quality of it's products but word of mouth is key in this business and people need to be talking more about them. Using TurboSquid 3D Models in Virtual Worlds. We will rather stick with cgtrader and know our models are safe, although the issue with finding CG models on the site is a little problem, but as long as they stay honest well be supporting them rather than supporting a bunch of thiefs and if we need to up our prices then so be it. Then someone from cgtrader decided that he likes 3dprinting sooo much. Payment Method Then they would only find the relevant models and get to purchasing them right away. We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Professional Rigged 3D Female Models Toggle Navigation; 3D Models New & Unrated Rigged Price. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. On the other side, CGtrader empowers the real content creators, giving them all kind of freedom regarding their products and image, and encouraging communication between customers and content creators. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. Is it the return guarantee if not satisfied? It's like if shapeways.com will start selling classic "cg" models. CGtrader is founded upon the best ideas and the people hoe believe in it and keep supporting it no matter what and hard work and determination always win. I do not know if community-policing has helped other sites keep their products better organized. Welcome to Eduvance Youtube Channel.Technology Leadership Program lecture series focuses on imparting knowledge to school students about new technologies lik. I'm really happy to see CGTrader growing. Doesn't seem so. Thor (Rig) for Maya 15. Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? [http://www.google.com google5 ] - Limiting free objects to, let's say licensed objects like Stars Wars or Lego or whatever in an unlimited number, but to a few when it comes to "showcase" objects, let's say, 4 to 5 per designer, to help potential buyer judge the overall quality of the seller objects It makes you blind and clueless to how a customer is actually using your product and how well it integrates in his business and future activities. A customer coming in from outside can view stores, search inside a store or still search the global data base. Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. This is why I would opt for a system which includes human sorting out capabilities. I like the deposit proposal of flat_3d, but jet again it probably best be part of a repertoire of marketing tools the designer could choose from, not a global policy. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment I would expect those kinds of charges from a real art gallery with real world space that could sell my work for 10,000 a pop, not some virtual space that sells my work for 50 bucks. If a company like Disney or NASA buys a model at TS, they advertise it as "Turbosquid customers buying Turbosquid models". because CGTrader team quickly investigate and decided to remove the bad Feeback. "TurboSquid Support, Jun 20, 08:14 SST: ;), My thoughts exactly.. 3d Printing could be very profitable (for CG Trader, and the modelers) I left the turbosquid from Diamond level . Cheap and free models are killing cgtrader. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. Gumroad is an awesome virtual marketplace where artists can create their own store and sell any type of digital asset, from textures to tutorial series. CGtrader is just better in all possible ways. Animated Camel 3D Model 13. I am new starter here. But if you are on Turbosquid as an exclusive sale (models will be sold only on the website TurboSquid), Cgtrader can lose and this position, in favor of TS Regards, I guess it is because of the youth of the site, which has not yet reached its maturity. Checkmate is the only good thing Turbosquid has left to offer. Change Method. Renderosity. You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. [google7|http://www.google.com] We want to improve the site not make it worse :). former the 3d studio, 3D export, creative crash and Turbosquid). A man can dream on :]. Maybe they should just smack up one big "We're cheaper than TurboSquid" banner and push it into Google Ads? Free3d.com7. Yes indeed! I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. found jet another working example that makes CGt stand out. There are currently no models in your cart. Brittney But it should be also possible to turn this filter off. They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. The claim Turbosquid made was that it infringed on Games Workshop IPs. TS beside ripping off taxes have a terrible support, I just was told in the civilized manner to F OFF, as I complained on an admin who kept my 3D model suspended for over 4 days. Answer: IN my opinion Turbosquid is a great site for selling models. See this GFXHub where you needed to pay a fee before you could download 3d models of Humster3d, Turbosquid and many other. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. Sales dropped to almost nothing. We've been doing business with Turbosquid for more than 10 years until our very public issues last year: http://www.nonecg.com/turbosquid/turbosquid_nonecg.htm. They can present the model screenshots straight from their helpdesk and ensure the client is not being screwed? What's lacking? You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. I sell my shipping container which is professional model according to my buyers reviews . So, CGT is the best guys ! I don't know whether it would be possible to implement, but it would stop those who just wanted to download as many free models as possible. Personally, I felt I in no way infringed on said IP. Rank improvement compared to previous 3 months: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com +5,816, http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/turbosquid.com +1,026. I hope to find same courage someday ;-) Prices are only guaranteed at the time of the creation of this document. But this is perhaps the only plus turbosquid. Yes. In fact, 61% comes out against 40%, since the paypal commission on cgtrader is borne by the seller, the site pays commission on turbosquid. Payout fees are just fractions of percent, not worth to consider. It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. What insane kind of practice is that, who owns the work then? This is due to discrimination in the pricing policy of the "TS" site. And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. Turbosquid has terrible royalty rates I was victim of that there a few months ago, I had a bad rating when the model have never had a problem during many years. Bottom line is if people are used to buying from TS they won't buy here because they need to use a different system so let's create our own client base. In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the . That basically says paying customers aren't allowed access to supposedly "free" items. Typically, large corporate buyers, they find a way to contact me even and on TS and make an offer on a specific project. TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. That is the most important reason for them to be on CGtrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money. In this case you could say (in a nutshell) CGt is (at its core) acting as a hub providing file hosting and transaction services, and it can basically do so whit everything digital. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. Important detail : CGTrader allows communication between customers and sellers ! Another point in favor cgtrader is that the royalties and buy a model possible in the payment system WebMoney. I read here on the forum can't remember if it was Iterate CGI or someone else said that CGTrader will soon sell on Amazon and I can't wait for it to happen!! It's all fine and CGT rocks the socks off the competition. Of course Matt Wisdom was disoriented and he was associated with Pixel SQUID bankruptcy. TurboSquid Member Services, I'm a first time seller (+-2 Months). This is from my own personal experience. CG trader is the first helpfull professional website I've seen in 20 years. when the same type of issue occurs on CGTrader, the Staff policy is to do nothing. - Do you prefer to do business with companies that takes the most profit from your products in exchange for a short-term higher revenue? Comment goo's like this, quote "Awesome model, converted this guy over into maya and he looks great" end quote. (this would be the core of the human sorting out system). Fine details have been sculpted on the model down to pores and fine lines on the face and body. Since then, I think the design has gotten much better, especially the separation between regular CG and 3D print, and the search algorithm seems also to be much more efficient. I removed the download limit until we update the protection so that buyers can download much larger quantities of free models. For some people with experience that did the math taking all factors in count (not talking about just NoneCG, of course) it was crystal clear since many years ago. TurboSquid is garbage. Of course, as CGT reputation grows, this may change in the future (CGTrader has already beaten The3Dstudio in terms of statistics, but you also have to take into account that there are certainly a very significant amount of people coming here for 3D-printing only, which decreases the statistics in terms of regular CG models). A real pointless task. All that time that we didn't have to spent dealing with Turbosquid bad support went to more time for artistic work. All because of search. On the contrary, comparing 2013 to 2014 for the exact same period (January to August) our sales INCREASED in a 45%. While sellers will be disadvantaged in many interests. I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! I think I do a decent job at earning my keep.. And yes, it this is like if shapeways started doing cg. Maybe CG Trader should consider a large add-on to the site, where the customers can click a link, and go to a whole new site (owned by cg trader) that does sells strictly 3d printable models :) Just an idea :). Ts would probably just pull up the royalty's and change policy if it stats feeling uncomfortable, but it would not change what is in memory. Blendswap.com5. Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. In response he founded this place on the core principal that the artist would come first. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. We all witness how bad it is for healthy competition and progress. - Fixing some guidelines to upload quality models (at least assuring that obj models, for instance, if textured, should have a proper .mtl file, limiting the models to quads/tris, imposing materials and textures to have understandable names, etc. They have a CheckMate program which gives you a higher percentage back from selling your model. It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. They may not end up following your ideas, but they will certainly take them into account. Some people mistaken de renders for real items already, can imagine how that would be on Ebay or amazon. Dude, I have from 500$ a month at SGtride and i don't feed fat Turbosquid bastards. This use is prohibited if the virtual world-type is an open MMO, like Second Life. You are just providing a platform." Machines have already replaced people making their jobs irrelevant in many fields already more and more customer service jobs have become automated, many store sales positions now are not needed because so much is being done online, the tolls on the highways now only use fast track or you get a letter in the mail telling you to pay it because there is no one in the booth anymore so you can't pay it on the road. 2. I really enjoy the chance to get to know other people's opinions and experiences regarding how they sell, network and do business and that is something I have only been able to do here on CGT. On top of that they have so many odd restrictions and hoops you need to keep jumping through just to make your model visible and people end up having to buy diamond accounts because they know they won't sell a single model unless they do. In my understanding, for CG models, there are three main trends : large public with various expectations and low budget (roughly, poser people) ; professionals needing a good quality model quick and ready to pay for that (roughly, TS buyers), programmers wanting to create video games in search of game ready assets. Recently I've been trying to contact my old clients and buyers and although they still have an interest in my models they don't quite trust CGT with their money. To me it feels like he is amongst us and we are performing a team effort. 2. royalty scale you work up on is all very cool the fact you can print here sell files here and stream files all on one listing CG TRADER FOR THE WIN!!! personally CGTrader is the second site where I realize more sales, I think we should avoid generalizing his own experience. This is not a "fight" between NoneCG and Turbosquid, but a struggle between different ways of doing business: the classic closed market or a more open one based on a Fair Business model and full comunication between the producer, the marketer and the customer. You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. . About TS: Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. So then people can actually customize and make cool toys and sell them on there. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/d7b76144-43db-4cbe-b27b-8ea42b3a7cb0/TurboSquid_Low_Sales.png I like, CG Trader is ascent. CGTrader remains a young and very responsive team and listening to members - it's a great quality. @captainmarlowe Thanks a lot for a lot of valid points regarding search and categorization! Sure, but I won't rinse and repeat the whole uploading process if it happens though. Imagine if CGtrader provided a service where they could get photos of the broken mug, then have some artists create a 3D version from the broken pieces and then have it printed for the client and sent to their house or if the client wants they can use their 3D printing company of preference to do it. New content is not provided to the on "Turbo" site. Same with copyright infringements, same with low quality models (a friend of mine bought recently a model here, which was supposed to be .OBJ compatible : but the seller had just exported the obj from its original program, without even editing the mtl file to have the textures loaded automatically ! It seems to me that over time a CGTrader will be able to overtake TurboSquid in many positions, if TS does not change its policy. Ebay and Amazon would be great for the cartoony non realistic stuff as well as 3D prints so long as people make sure to document the files appropriately and let people know it is 3D and not real. I have noticed that a lot of artists are moving to Asia to find jobs where they are far better respected and paid what they are worth. Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. They bring answers to your problems or requests quite fast and in a very convivial way. CGt embraces all modern communication technologies which is critical to establish such a place. Ha, ha. A good platform should integrate all next gen communication technologies in order to support curent evolution and technological progress. Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. It doesn't matter if the printing industry is growing fast. Buyers tend to look for things based on the category and budget and like to be able to put two products side by side to compare them and get a better understanding of why one is better than the other or which product is more suitable for them as an individual. I was ,,Diamond ,, since 2008, they stole items and they never gave me the money . etc And it is convenient for the buyer and profitable for the seller. ", then there is little one can do but wait out the rebalancing. The product team is reviewing your comments and this is something we will definitely work on. or I can just sell on cgt and artstationm marketplace? A battle is going on right now, and some top sellers are going full #SquidClan with a custom deal from the Wisdoms: a 5-6 digit $ amount in instant cash now as an advance of a 2 year exclusivity deal, plus a boost of their royalties at the expense of all the other "non-top" sellers at Turbosquid that won't be getting any offer from Matt Wisdom. Being between a rock (TS) and a hard place (CT) is a damn round the clock aggravation. Thingiverse has allowed licenses to be transferred into another users name, which is very important option if you want to invent something and sell the ownership, else your stuck with it forever. Basically, they continue to sell their previous models or are selling non-liquid assets. CGTrader. A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? Honestly, who wants to buy nudes anyway? Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. Same for me, here. High hopes for Cgtrader. [google14]url:http://www.google.com. and cgtrader is easy to navigate and great UI, Turbosquid is a very shit comparing to CGTrader, i dont like turbosquid i prefer CGtrader absolutely, I think it is more comfortable to use. My initial idea was that Ts had some clients that do not know anything outside of Ts.
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